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Posts: 159 ( 6-Sep-09 09:18:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Does anyone know what is going on with him? I thought he would be pitching game 5 but is sounds like Simmy is going to pitch Jeff Icenogle.
BarkeepND		#1	[-]
Posts: 624 ( 6-Sep-09 09:31:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	FMHawksFan wrote: Does anyone know what is going on with him? I thought he would be pitching game 5 but is sounds like Simmy is going to pitch Jeff Icenogle. i was wondering the same thing
FMHawksFan		#2	[-]
Posts: 160 ( 6-Sep-09 09:47:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If he is able to pitch I certainly hope he is not being held out for some other reason. My opinion is he gives us the best chance and he would be on a full 5 days rest. I guess we will find out tomorrow.
FMHawksFan	Bad Matchup	#3	[-]
Posts: 163 ( 7-Sep-09 08:03:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I asked Scott Miller through a G-Mail during the game. He thought it might just be a Match-up reason. Sorry I don't buy it but it is what it is.
sportsgirl		#4	[-]
Posts: 18 ( 7-Sep-09 10:30:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I heard him talk about the gmail on the radio tonight, wonder what the real reason is? Hopefully we'll see him next week as they just beat Winnipeg! Go Hawks!
BarkeepND		#5	[-]
Posts: 627 ( 7-Sep-09 10:40:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i think the reason is he had more faith in his bullpen (that has performed well all series) then in bringing in a guy on short rest. He's looking pretty sly now as a well rested Coffman should be ready to pitch tuesday's opener.
FMHawksFan	Maybe not a bad Choice.	#6	[-]
Posts: 164 ( 7-Sep-09 10:48:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I did look back at the box scores for Broc vs. Winnipeg. although it was back in June & July he had games where he struggled. It will be nice to have him well rested for Gary. Tony Cogan pitched today for Gary so I would not expect to see him until the teams get to Gary.
caretaker110		#7	[-]
Posts: 400 ( 7-Sep-09 11:49:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	BarkeepND I am curious what is your definition of short rest. You seem to talk a lot about Fargo being tied. How many days off does Broc need off between starts. I thought he pitched the last game of the season I think Broc has the same problem against Winnipeg that Walker has against Fargo. They just don't seem to match up well at times. I believe that was the reason we only saw Walker in the fourth game You refer to Fargo seeming tiered. Didn't they drive 5000 miles less than the Goldeyes and play 2 games less. How many double headers did they play . They sure looked mighty fine to me. I thought managing the pitchers was the difference in the series and Doug and Steve did a much better job. Winnipeg's bullpen leaves a lot to be desired. We were so lucky to have seen 5 great games I may drive up to catch one game of the finals. I see Fargo winning in 4 games Good Luck and God turn up for the games don't sit at home and listen
BarkeepND		#8	[-]
Posts: 628 ( 7-Sep-09 12:55:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	my reference to them being 'bone tired' was sarcasm. i'm of the opinion that the redhawks are no more tired then any other NoL team. I'll be there.
FMHawksFan		#9	[-]
Posts: 166 ( 7-Sep-09 21:43:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	BarkeepND wrote: my reference to them being 'bone tired' was sarcasm. i'm of the opinion that the redhawks are no more tired then any other NoL team. I'll be there. Yes I knew it was sarcasm as well Barkeep. I am pretty sure I know who it was directed at as well. The Hawks only played one less game due to a Rainout. Actually it was 6 innings less. I belive that Doug Simunic has managed to actually keep this team about as rested as you can in this league and I do remember some one saying in one of these threads that the Hawks are out of Gas. I am of the opinion that the Hawks may be one of the most rested teams, if that even matters at this point. If you look at pitching, Tim Lavigne had about a 2 week layoff between the Mexican League and here. Along with that Donzell McDonald did as well. Yosandy Ibanez had a 12 game suspension in August were he recieved some rest. Ruben Salazar did not show up until the very end of July so he is rested as well. Simmy was able to use Jeff Stevens behind the plate proably close to 25 games and he used Kole Zimmerman in the early part of this Season to give Alan Rick time off from behind the plate. The Redhawks only have one pitcher that pitched over 100 innings there is not a Playoff Team that can say that. Billy Weitzman returned from an injury and Missed almost a month of play. Up until the playoffs Jeremy Hauer only pitched in 22 innings and he was big in this Series. Jeff Icenogle only pitced in 7 games before pitching 2 games in this Series. We do have a few guys that have been everyday workhorses but so does everyone else. I will say that if Broc is not hurt this will could really play out well using him in game one. Last Edited By: FMHawksFan 7-Sep-09 23:48:06. Edited 1 times.
BarkeepND		#10	[-]
Posts: 629 ( 7-Sep-09 22:27:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hauer was an ideal fit against the Goldeyes. Especially when he faced them in game five after the 6 run explosion. It looked like every Goldeye was trying to hit a 6 run homer against him, and with his offspead stuff he kept them totally off balance. They managed a couple bloop hits against him and that was it. I have the feeling he wont be able to have that extended success against a patient veteran team like the railcats but he can be effective in smaller doses if he can throw that curve for a strike consistently. Simmy talked about 'changing some things up' for this series.. i'm interested in seeing what might be up with that.
kennethap		#11	[-]
Posts: 524 ( 8-Sep-09 01:21:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	FMHawksFan wrote: BarkeepND wrote: my reference to them being 'bone tired' was sarcasm. i'm of the opinion that the redhawks are no more tired then any other NoL team. I'll be there. Yes I knew it was sarcasm as well Barkeep. I am pretty sure I know who it was directed at as well. The Hawks only played one less game due to a Rainout. Actually it was 6 innings less. I belive that Doug Simunic has managed to actually keep this team about as rested as you can in this league and I do remember some one saying in one of these threads that the Hawks are out of Gas. I am of the opinion that the Hawks may be one of the most rested teams, if that even matters at this point. If you look at pitching, Tim Lavigne had about a 2 week layoff between the Mexican League and here. Along with that Donzell McDonald did as well. Yosandy Ibanez had a 12 game suspension in August were he recieved some rest. Ruben Salazar did not show up until the very end of July so he is rested as well. Simmy was able to use Jeff Stevens behind the plate proably close to 25 games and he used Kole Zimmerman in the early part of this Season to give Alan Rick time off from behind the plate. The Redhawks only have one pitcher that pitched over 100 innings there is not a Playoff Team that can say that. Billy Weitzman returned from an injury and Missed almost a month of play. Up until the playoffs Jeremy Hauer only pitched in 22 innings and he was big in this Series. Jeff Icenogle only pitced in 7 games before pitching 2 games in this Series. We do have a few guys that have been everyday workhorses but so does everyone else. I will say that if Broc is not hurt this will could really play out well using him in game one. Hmmmmm. I wonder who that sarcasm was directed toward. LOL. I'll stand by what I said. However, I was TOTALLY off in my first round prediction. The Goldeyes weren't the correct team to test my hypothesis. The way Winnipeg fell out of first place was troubling enough, but what I find personally troubling is how players told their fans how their OWN homerun shouldn't have been awarded to give THEM a certain win (actually, from a Shuamburg thread). Just tells me this collection of Goldeyes didn't have the heart to be winners...at least those whining about how they shouldn't have a homerun. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kennethap Last Edited By: kennethap 8-Sep-09 01:27:07. Edited 1 times.
BarkeepND		#12	[-]
Posts: 630 ( 8-Sep-09 20:19:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	kennethap wrote: FMHawksFan wrote: BarkeepND wrote: my reference to them being 'bone tired' was sarcasm. i'm of the opinion that the redhawks are no more tired then any other NoL team. I'll be there. Yes I knew it was sarcasm as well Barkeep. I am pretty sure I know who it was directed at as well. The Hawks only played one less game due to a Rainout. Actually it was 6 innings less. I belive that Doug Simunic has managed to actually keep this team about as rested as you can in this league and I do remember some one saying in one of these threads that the Hawks are out of Gas. I am of the opinion that the Hawks may be one of the most rested teams, if that even matters at this point. If you look at pitching, Tim Lavigne had about a 2 week layoff between the Mexican League and here. Along with that Donzell McDonald did as well. Yosandy Ibanez had a 12 game suspension in August were he recieved some rest. Ruben Salazar did not show up until the very end of July so he is rested as well. Simmy was able to use Jeff Stevens behind the plate proably close to 25 games and he used Kole Zimmerman in the early part of this Season to give Alan Rick time off from behind the plate. The Redhawks only have one pitcher that pitched over 100 innings there is not a Playoff Team that can say that. Billy Weitzman returned from an injury and Missed almost a month of play. Up until the playoffs Jeremy Hauer only pitched in 22 innings and he was big in this Series. Jeff Icenogle only pitced in 7 games before pitching 2 games in this Series. We do have a few guys that have been everyday workhorses but so does everyone else. I will say that if Broc is not hurt this will could really play out well using him in game one. Hmmmmm. I wonder who that sarcasm was directed toward. LOL. I'll stand by what I said. However, I was TOTALLY off in my first round prediction. The Goldeyes weren't the correct team to test my hypothesis. The way Winnipeg fell out of first place was troubling enough, but what I find personally troubling is how players told their fans how their OWN homerun shouldn't have been awarded to give THEM a certain win (actually, from a Shuamburg thread). Just tells me this collection of Goldeyes didn't have the heart to be winners...at least those whining about how they shouldn't have a homerun. what thinking a ball is foul has to do with desire to win is beyond me.
kennethap	You take your wins where you can get them. It's the competitive nature that apparently some players lack.	#13	[-]
Posts: 526 ( 9-Sep-09 21:01:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No, no, no. It's about more than a foul ball. It's about wanting to win instead of wanting to whine. The Goldeyes players that had the nerve to tell their own fans they didn't deserve the runs and the win should not be a Goldeye next season, without exception. Winnipeg can't win with whiners like that. No one can. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kennethap Last Edited By: kennethap 9-Sep-09 21:05:01. Edited 1 times.
BarkeepND		#14	[-]
Posts: 633 (10-Sep-09 02:52:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	kennethap wrote: No, no, no. It's about more than a foul ball. It's about wanting to win instead of wanting to whine. The Goldeyes players that had the nerve to tell their own fans they didn't deserve the runs and the win should not be a Goldeye next season, without exception. Winnipeg can't win with whiners like that. No one can. again you've taken two totally unrelated things and tried to tie a connection between them. Yer conclusion can't help but be spurious. I don't recall hearing about anyone 'whining', just stating that they thought it was a bad call. Sounds like a lot of people did. A lot of people also thought the ball was fair. Most importantly the umpire did (and to his credit it looked like he got down the line to get as good a look as he could). I know a lot of ultra competitive people who would much rather win it 'the right way' then win it at any cost. This doesn't make them any less competitive. Winnipeg DID win, and win a lot with those players. They were a couple plays away from moving into the championship round (in which case you'd be rehashing yer equally flawed 'the redhawks were bone tired cuz simmy doesn't understand the game' theory). That's baseball, especially in the Indy leagues.
TYSOALEX		#15	[-]
Posts: 79 (10-Sep-09 03:55:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	kennethap wrote: No, no, no. It's about more than a foul ball. It's about wanting to win instead of wanting to whine. The Goldeyes players that had the nerve to tell their own fans they didn't deserve the runs and the win should not be a Goldeye next season, without exception. Winnipeg can't win with whiners like that. No one can. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with Broc Coffman but anyways, I was one of the people the players talked to about the ball being foul and I'm not sure where you get that they were whining. They were simply asked a question at the Fan Fest that day and they answered it. To question this teams heart and desire to win because they where honest in what they beleive they saw that night makes no sense. Back to the Wpg - Fargo series I was suprised not to see Coffman in game 5. One thing I was inpressed with was how confindent Simmy was with his pen. After the first two games we thought Wpg was getting to Fargo's starters and they were the reason Simmy went to the pen by the 5th inning every game. But as the series went along it looked more like that was his plan all along. Guys like Hauer and Levinge did a great job against the Eyes. I see Coffman isn't listed as the game 2 starter. Does anyone know if he will finish up game 1 tonight?
kennethap	Won a lot, but out in the first round again. Better players would have taken them to the promised land.	#16	[-]
Posts: 528 (10-Sep-09 06:49:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	BarkeepND wrote: kennethap wrote: No, no, no. It's about more than a foul ball. It's about wanting to win instead of wanting to whine. The Goldeyes players that had the nerve to tell their own fans they didn't deserve the runs and the win should not be a Goldeye next season, without exception. Winnipeg can't win with whiners like that. No one can. again you've taken two totally unrelated things and tried to tie a connection between them. Yer conclusion can't help but be spurious. I don't recall hearing about anyone 'whining', just stating that they thought it was a bad call. Sounds like a lot of people did. A lot of people also thought the ball was fair. Most importantly the umpire did (and to his credit it looked like he got down the line to get as good a look as he could). I know a lot of ultra competitive people who would much rather win it 'the right way' then win it at any cost. This doesn't make them any less competitive. Winnipeg DID win, and win a lot with those players. They were a couple plays away from moving into the championship round (in which case you'd be rehashing yer equally flawed 'the redhawks were bone tired cuz simmy doesn't understand the game' theory). That's baseball, especially in the Indy leagues. I was the one mentioning whining. I'm talking about actual Winnipeg players whining that THEY should not have gotten the runs and thus win (and telling that to their own fans). Those players should never be allowed to wear a Goldeyes uniform again. The manager (Forney) needs to stay, but he needs some gamers from top of the order to bottom in the future. Flawed conclusion on my hypothesis??? Time will tell soon. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kennethap
kennethap	It's about the concept of T.E.A.M	#17	[-]
Posts: 529 (10-Sep-09 07:04:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	TYSOALEX wrote: I'm not sure what any of this has to do with Broc Coffman but anyways, I was one of the people the players talked to about the ball being foul and I'm not sure where you get that they were whining. They were simply asked a question at the Fan Fest that day and they answered it. To question this teams heart and desire to win because they where honest in what they beleive they saw that night makes no sense. I'll stand by what I said...again. Those players need to discover I don't know as part of their vocabulary. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kennethap
FMHawksFan		#18	[-]
Posts: 171 (10-Sep-09 11:48:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	TYSOALEX wrote: Back to the Wpg - Fargo series I was suprised not to see Coffman in game 5. One thing I was inpressed with was how confindent Simmy was with his pen. After the first two games we thought Wpg was getting to Fargo's starters and they were the reason Simmy went to the pen by the 5th inning every game. But as the series went along it looked more like that was his plan all along. Guys like Hauer and Levinge did a great job against the Eyes. I see Coffman isn't listed as the game 2 starter. Does anyone know if he will finish up game 1 tonight? He is now expected to pitch game 3 as it stands now. That is the Buzz around the park. We had another great game out of Hauer. I think if this game goes 5 he will be ready again because he is not "tired"!!! On a sad note it looks as if we will not see Garry Bakker again. I want to wish him well in the off season. Last Edited By: FMHawksFan 10-Sep-09 12:05:20. Edited 1 times.
caretaker110		#19	[-]
Posts: 405 (10-Sep-09 22:31:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The Buzz your hearing is true. Doug said Broc would be starting game 3 in Gary
FMHawksFan	He pitched well	#20	[-]
Posts: 173 (12-Sep-09 09:26:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	As I thought he would. Too many walks though. He kept it close and pitched 5 plus.

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