Vipers and Cracker-Cats out of Northern League

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GBL4AV		#101	[-]
Posts: 20 ( 6-Nov-07 12:36:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I saw on article (I forget where, I'd give the link if I remembered) on the GBL's 2009 expansion plans, and it said that they are trying for at least 4 more Canada teams (I say Kelowna, Saskatoon, Regina, and Kamloops), and at least 2-4 U.S. teams (they said one by the Bay Area, one in either San Bernardino or Riverside Counties [both are in SoCal], one in Oregon, and one in Washington). Pretty big hopes: 2009 PROPOSED GBL: CANADA Calgary Edmonton CANADA EXPANSION A CANADA EXPANSION B CANADA EXPANSION C CANADA EXPANSION D UNITED STATES Long Beach Chico Reno Yuma Orange County St. George USA EXPANSION A USA EXPANSION B Honestly, I think the U.S. will get 2 expansions for 2009, and Canada will nab 4.
GBL4AV		#102	[-]
Posts: 21 (11-Nov-07 05:32:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Uh, OK, so nobody's here? Anyone think that GBL will nab more Canada teams by Thanksgiving (that's how long they have to prepare a team, all after will be 2009 plans)?
goldeyesalltheway		#103	[-]
Posts: 35 (11-Nov-07 06:36:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It's not that we're not here. It's that we don't care about the GBL.
MJHankel		#104	[-]
Posts: 152 (11-Nov-07 06:38:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It just seems like it would be too much of a rush at this point. That was one of the problems the Vipers and Cats had to deal with when they first started out. Yes, you can survive, but the rush makes it nearly impossible. There is little time to market. IMHO they would be better off waiting a year. At best I could see a road team that plays at various possible future canadian markets. It would give the Edmonton teams somebody to play close by. It would also be a way to test the waters, so to speak. Though who knows they could drop 3 teams in this season, I just don't think it would be prudent.
GBL4AV		#105	[-]
Posts: 22 (11-Nov-07 12:26:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hmm.... I say no travel team. The Atlantic League got rid of theirs, and now they are booming in season ticket purchases. The Can-Am League got rid of theirs, then brought it back again, and cancelled out one of their most successful teams. This is why there is no canamfan.com. North Shore and New Haven County were cut because of Can-Am's stupidity. Also, how is Eddie's Colonial League coming? I'm planning one called the National Association. Like the GBL: based in the Western U.S. and Western/Central Canada.
MJHankel		#106	[-]
Posts: 153 (11-Nov-07 13:57:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	True, I agree that travel teams are not really a good thing, but given the circumstance if they try to rush franchises into existence with too little time, they are likely to be worse off than a travel team. I really just think that if something does not happen soon (like now), they need to wait until 2009.
GBL4AV		#107	[-]
Posts: 23 (12-Nov-07 02:57:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Which is most likely to happen with Saskatoon and Kelowna, the two most qualified IMO.
Zeyes		#108	[-]
Posts: 29 (12-Nov-07 10:53:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	GBL4AV wrote: The Can-Am League got rid of theirs, then brought it back again, and cancelled out one of their most successful teams. This is why there is no canamfan.com. North Shore and New Haven County were cut because of Can-Am's stupidity. Err, are you trying to imply that leagues actually choose to keep travel teams around and cut other franchises instead? I'm really struggling to make sense of that paragraph...
General Manager		#109	[-]
Posts: 32 (12-Nov-07 19:21:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	GBL4AV wrote: The Can-Am League got rid of theirs, then brought it back again, and cancelled out one of their most successful teams. This is why there is no canamfan.com. North Shore and New Haven County were cut because of Can-Am's stupidity. A league does not have the right to "cancel out" a team unless they hold ownership. The CanAm does not have central ownership like the Golden League so the league cannot "cut" teams like the San Diego Surf Dogs, Mesa Miners, and Surprise Fighting Falcons. North Shore and New Haven shut down operations because their individual owners decided to call it quits. Also, there is a "canamfan.com"...it's called nefan.net and the forums cover the CanAm, Atlantic League, and northeast summer collegiate leagues.
nlfan	If you want to talk GBL (or C-AL) go to the correct forums	#110	[-]
Posts: 5410 (12-Nov-07 23:10:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	That's a very good point for talking about the C-AL. Please go to the nefan.net forums if you want to discuss that league in depth. It was started by someone who was a regular here after the NoL-E split. If you're going to talk about the GBL, please go to the OSC GBL forums where you'll find more fans and people familiar with it. I'm leaving the C-Cats and Vipers forums up for existing fans of those clubs to discuss them but I fully expect them to migrate to OSC since that's where the online action is for the GBL. I will close this topic if it continues to go on and on about GBL Canadian expansion, it's of little interest to NoL or AA fans.
Eddie CCPBA		#111	[-]
Posts: 112 (13-Nov-07 02:43:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Also, how is Eddie's Colonial League coming? I'm planning one called the National Association. Like the GBL: based in the Western U.S. and Western/Central Canada. Gotta love the free publicity. The one thing the AA has going for it after the split is strong teams. But you do have to wonder about all the rumors like the Chicago teams to the FL and all that. It's definitely a big change for indy ball when one of the biggest leagues runs into these type of issues. The original split might have been a deathblow, the AA was basically the middle of the league, they made the transition and travel much easier. I can run down a list of markets in the center of the US but how many are willing to build a ballpark. And you don't see many leagues funding the ballparks on their own. ULB does and some of the FL has and that may be the route the leagues have to go. It's a huge risk though if you pick the wrong market. Some type of interleague play ______________________________ "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we would all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo
GBL4AV		#112	[-]
Posts: 24 (15-Nov-07 07:12:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What I meant was how are the plans for the CoL coming? And, here are the markets I had in mind for the NA: Coeur d'Alene, ID Redding, CA Bend, OR Surrey, BC Kelowna, BC Salinas, CA San Marcos, CA Silver City, NM Mesa, AZ Cedar City, UT Also, a quick random fact: Out of all the defunct indy leagues, only one lasted more than three years: the Western Baseball League. All others wound up going from one week to two years.
Eddie CCPBA		#113	[-]
Posts: 115 (15-Nov-07 21:11:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Can't tell I'm being evasive yet? Just working behind the scenes. Talking to people. Wishing the Holyoke team stayed in Holyoke. Figured this wasn't the place to mention it. Looking at 2009. Not saying much of anything until things are more concrete. Don't feel like saying something and then things don't happen. Had a false start already, not aiming for 2. ______________________________ "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we would all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo
GBL4AV		#114	[-]
Posts: 26 (18-Nov-07 01:21:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I see what you mean.

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